tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32937120.post6889992709878937517..comments2024-03-29T10:27:26.196+05:30Comments on Kaal - Chiron...: Seven Stages of LoveUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32937120.post-6762271982846230162016-09-02T19:52:43.613+05:302016-09-02T19:52:43.613+05:30 “इश्क़ पर जोर नहीं, हैं ये वो आतिश ग़ालिब, जो लगा... “इश्क़ पर जोर नहीं, हैं ये वो आतिश ग़ालिब, जो लगाए न लगे और बुझाए न बने” वाले ग़ालिब के शेर से ये गाना शुरू होता है | यहाँ चिंगारी फूटी है, महसूस होना शुरू हो गया है |<br />“कोई ख़्वाब हैं या परछाई है, सतरंगी रे ? सतरंगी रे.....<br />इस बार बता मुजोर हवा ठहरेगी कहाँ ?”<br />सवाल यहाँ मन में उठने शुरू हो चुके हैं और ये वो जगह है जहाँ पहली सीढ़ी “हब” यानी कि आकर्षण है | ये मिर्ज़ा ग़ालिब की वो लाइन है जिस से इश्क की आग से तुलना हुई है | इसे जलाना, शुरू करना नामुमकिन है | अपने आप ही शुरू होगी, मगर एक बार शुरू हुई तो फिर बुझेगी भी नहीं |<br />“आँखों ने कुछ ऐसे छुआ, हल्का हल्का उन्स हुआ,<br />हल्का हल्का उन्स हुआ, दिल को महसूस हुआ”<br />गाने के इस हिस्से में पहुँचने पर आपको “उन्स” शब्द ही नजर आ जायेगा | उन्स का मतलब आसक्ति होता है | ये वो जगह है जहाँ कहते हैं कि माशूक की गली के चक्कर लगने शुरू हो जाते हैं | एक बार देखने की, जरा सा छु लेने की ख्वाहिश, वही जिसे infatuation कहते हैं ना ? उसे उन्स कहते हैं |<br />“तेरी जिस्म की आंच को छूते ही, मेरे सांस सुलगने लगते हैं,<br />मुझे इश्क़ दिलासे देता हैं, मेरे दर्द बिलखने लगते हैं”<br />तीसरी सीढ़ी है “इश्क़” यानि वो जिसे हम आम तौर पर प्यार कहते हैं | इश्क़ से पहले जो होता है, वो कोई मज़ेदार नहीं होता | इश्क़ के बाद भी कुछ अच्छा नहीं लगता | प्यार के जिस दर्द का जिक्र होता है वो या तो “इश्क़” से पहले होता है या इश्क के बाद | दिल टूटना इसके बाद होता है, माशूक किसी और पे ध्यान दे तो जलन भी इस से पहले होती है |<br />“छूती है मुझे सरगोशी से, आँखों में घुली खामोशी से,<br />मैं फर्श पे सजदे करता हूँ, कुछ होश में कुछ बेहोशी से”<br />इस पैराग्राफ में मुहब्बत की चौथी और पांचवी सीढ़ी है | यहाँ इश्क़ कुछ कुछ श्रद्धा जैसा हो जाता है और कुछ कुछ इबादत जैसा | इश्क़ का चौथा स्तर अक़ीदत यानि श्रद्धा और पांचवा इबादत होता है | इस स्थिति तक द्वैत है | भक्त अलग है और भगवान अलग है, माशूक अलग है, आशिक़ अलग | इस से आगे बढ़ने पर इश्क़ पागलपन जैसा हो जाता है | यहाँ से आगे बढ़ने को दीवाना होने के नाम से आप पहले से जानते हैं |<br />“तेरी राहों में उलझा उलझा हूँ, तेरी बाहों में उलझा उलझा,<br />सुलझाने दे होश मुझे, तेरी चाहों में उलझा हूँ,<br />मेरा जीना जूनून, मेरा मरना जूनून,<br />अब इसके सिवा नहीं कोई सुकून”<br />ये मुहब्बत की छठी सीढ़ी है जिसे “जूनून” कहते हैं | यहाँ होश नहीं रहता | आदमी इश्क और माशूक के बारे में इतना सोच चुका होता है कि खुद को भूलने लगे | यहाँ माशूक से अलग खुद की कल्पना ही नहीं होती | यहाँ मीरा कृष्ण होने लगती है | यहाँ भक्त राधा हो जाता है | यहाँ से शीरीं-फ़रहाद का नाम साथ ही लेना होगा, यहाँ से लैला-मजनू एक हो जाते हैं | यहाँ हीर कौन है राँझा कौन, वो फर्क नहीं रहता, साहिबा कहने से मिर्ज़ा अपने आप हो जाता है |<br />“मुझे मौत की गोद में सोने दे,<br />तेरी रूह में जिस्म डुबोने दे”<br />ये अंत है | या कहिये की शुरुआत है | यहाँ मुहब्बत की आखरी सीढ़ी है, जिसे “मौत” कहते हैं | इश्क़ के किस्से सुनने सुनाने यहाँ के बाद ही शुरू होते हैं | इसलिए शुरुआत भी कह सकते हैं | बाकी अरबी साहित्य के इश्क़ की सात सीढ़ियों में से ये आखरी स्तर है | इसे उर्दू में अक्सर फ़ना कहते हैं, भक्ति में कैवल्य, अध्यात्म में ये अद्वैत है |<br />यहाँ प्रेमी का “अहं” का भाव तिरोहित होता है | सूफ़ी कई बार गाते गाते जब नाचने-झूमने लगते हैं, जिसे ज़द आना कहते हैं वहां ऐसा ही कुछ महसूस होता है | योगियों में जिसे ध्यान लगना कहा जाता है वो इसका शुरूआती स्तर है | निर्विकल्प समाधी ऐसी स्थिति को कहते हैं जहाँ जूनून सी हालत होती है |Anand Kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12625212603618068587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32937120.post-13806040921545259422014-02-02T21:11:49.600+05:302014-02-02T21:11:49.600+05:30Loved this! New insight. :)Loved this! New insight. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00923924448774541879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32937120.post-62579991684312224202014-01-31T01:39:44.618+05:302014-01-31T01:39:44.618+05:30But a beautiful piece indeed :) wouldn't have ...But a beautiful piece indeed :) wouldn't have ever analysed a song in this depthAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08327083045842752971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32937120.post-72042061367568078902014-01-31T01:38:22.323+05:302014-01-31T01:38:22.323+05:30I have a slightly different take on the last 2 poi...I have a slightly different take on the last 2 points - after one reaches a point of reverence in a relationship or love or bhakti - there are 2 ways to go, Ravan chose to take the first one, the one of obsession - wherein he wanted to posses the object of his bhakti, i.e.Shiva and when obsession strikes, death is the end,but there is another approach to let go, because you are one in spirit and in mind with your object of love, there is no desire posses, because there is not need to posses, your emotions at that stage need no gratification, as was the case with Narsinh Mehta or Tulsidas, they did not try to posses but accepted fate wholeheartedly, and if thats your approach bliss is the ultimate reward, not death but liberation <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08327083045842752971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32937120.post-25107476638914973882012-05-07T13:58:28.263+05:302012-05-07T13:58:28.263+05:30I am speechless. This is a beautiful piece of writ...I am speechless. This is a beautiful piece of writing, and a profound one.Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14575226401572020572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32937120.post-35845080980372425592011-08-09T20:39:54.058+05:302011-08-09T20:39:54.058+05:30Amazing !!Amazing !!aprilshowers111https://www.blogger.com/profile/01847980747733818301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32937120.post-11721014201750869442009-10-27T19:35:44.707+05:302009-10-27T19:35:44.707+05:30Dear Sagar,
I guess, this is where, "no man ...Dear Sagar,<br /><br />I guess, this is where, "no man is an island entirely of itself" applies the most.<br /><br />In my humble opinion, almost all of the test subjects in any sort of connective relationship with any object/person/idea are lovers. I am just redefining the phrase for sake of discussion. Love is sort of connection between two entities, which either can be attractive (forces add up to each other) or repulsive (forces subtract). <br /><br />This is a bit slippery because, hatred shows similar trajectory of emotions as that of attraction/love. The Sanskrit term used by Rishi Patanjali (ऋषि पतंजलि) in his Yogsutras(योगसूत्र) is Raag(राग). Raag is typically used in Sanskrit to refer to any strong emotion(भाव). going off topic, the Raag in classical music too refers to certain intense mood which is conveyed by that particular combination of musical notes.<br /><br />Anyways, now that, the ground has been sufficiently, defined, here are my arguments.<br /><br />1. Philosophically, 7 seven stages of Love are in fact 7 stages of Raag. <br /><br />2. The Onset of Raag towards a particular object generally will result in completion of cycle, in absence of other mental faculties which somehow resist the progression. Add to that, the environmental inputs which either dissuades an individual from moving ahead OR pre-occupies his mind with something else.<br /><br />3. In my opinion, the stages subsequent to Ishq become exceedingly momentary and very difficult to sustain for longer durations. It requires a very high energy system to sustain a particular Raag towards particular object at Junoon level for life-time. The sheer cost of maintaining such continuous high-energy state dissuades people from going further.<br /><br />4. Now, awareness of choice is to be thought at two level; conscious and sub-conscious. I guess, at least at subconscious level everybody is aware of the high-maintenance and ephemeral nature of Raag in post Ishq stages.<br /><br />5. Interestingly, the choice of halting at stage three is mostly done at subconscious level. If the awareness manages to reach to conscious level, the mental peace of individual tends to be disrupted as now he will have to consciously make a decision, which is kind of painful. Ignorance is bliss and knowledge may or may not be power, but definitely not bliss.:-)<br /><br />6. I do not have a survey to back my argument, but I guess most of test subjects tend to reject the possibility of going ahead beyond Ishq as long as they are provided with choice at least on subconscious level. The analysis has to occur on whether to go ahead OR not. Whether it happens consciously OR subconsciously in given individual, varies from nature of person (Swadharma), object, desire, age, conditioning (Sanskaars)and time.<br /><br />7. This, however, also concurrently leads us to an argument that there are certain individuals which choose subconsciously to move beyond Ishq stage. They find themselves irrevocably moving along the harsher currents of their Raag towards certain object and they are somehow unable to consciously understand this drift.<br /><br />8. Destruction does not happen until it has happened. In my opinion, mind is strong enough to stop an individual on its journey to destruction and turn back until destruction actually happens; after that, there is no mind, no ego, nothing. The biggest example is that of Vishwamitra and Menaka. Vishwamitra intended to reach the 7th stage and was very close to it. Menaka's diversion proved strong enough to pull him back from edge of destruction (at least temporarily). Of course, later he left both Menaka and his daughter and attained 7th stage.<br /><br />9. I guess, the problem is choice.<br /><br />The more I think of it, the more I find the similarity of these 7 stages in Arabic literature with Yoga-Philosophy. Since I am also an avid lover of history, geo-socio-politics, I hazard a guess that this is what they (arabs) understood of Yogsutras when this knowledge was passed on to that region.काय चालूये.. https://www.blogger.com/profile/17951102544582956198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32937120.post-30307403113634536842009-10-26T04:39:06.483+05:302009-10-26T04:39:06.483+05:30Dear Sagar,
Thanks for the comment !!
"Why...Dear Sagar, <br /><br />Thanks for the comment !!<br /><br />"Why will a truly fulfilled love move beyond Ishq?"<br /><br />Well, most do not.. But for some, its just not enough. Most do not because, the path thereafter is not sustainable. The end is not completely known, nor are the gains but the loss is complete..<br /><br />Pardon for using language of gain/loss in a topic which is universally acknowledged as something higher. But, I think for attempting to answer this question, one has to use this language..<br /><br />The fear of unknown, many times, stops an individual from knowing certain things completely. This fear of unknown is one factor which repels most of "Lovers" from going beyond Ishq. <br /><br />Secondly, once "content" sets is, there is a local optima on the love-curve. An individual won't try and leave the comfort zone of content to find something more.<br /><br />Content sets in because, the motives of falling in love are completed and achieved. The motives for falling in love are difficult to express in words, but liking someone's company, thought-process, sexual-attraction, mutual respect, are some reasons/motives. By the stage of Ishq, most of these motives are fulfilled for most of the "lovers".<br /><br />But, there are few of those which are either delayed of fulfilment of some motive, they tend to jump to higher level. Here again, most of the delayed ones either give-up the pursuit and try luck somewhere else or get detached.<br /><br />Few persist. The subsequent stages are for those very few. What makes them persistent? Perhaps their nature, perhaps their involvement, perhaps too much of mental investments at stake, perhaps because they just can't help.<br /><br />In my opinion, for journey through post Ishq stages requires support of the beloved as well. Depending upon the nature of pursuer, the beloved (person OR idea) should either encourage him/her OR elude him/her. <br /><br />If we consider character of Arjun and Eklavya, and beloved was the skill of archery (Dhanur-vidya), Arjuna reached completion owing to encouragement of the beloved, whereas Ekalavya reached same stage owing to eluding rejection of the beloved so that he simply could not give up. Both however, reached the final stage of "love" with respect to their beloved.<br /><br />What happened thereafter is none of our concern as there are social, political and other reasons for it..<br /><br />For some, world is simply not enough.. I guess only those move beyond stage 3. As we see around, most of people do not move beyond stage three because of reasons well elucidated by you in your comment..<br /><br />I am interested in your response to this !!<br /><br />Thanks again for valuable comment...काय चालूये.. https://www.blogger.com/profile/17951102544582956198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32937120.post-83767932758268656022009-10-26T02:19:18.462+05:302009-10-26T02:19:18.462+05:30As I was going through this post, I couldn't h...As I was going through this post, I couldn't help thinking that these are actually the stages of UNREQUITED love. The stages beyond इश्क़ seem to be those of an obsessive mind who can't come to terms with the fact that his progression through the first three stages has been impotent. I ask myself, "Why will a truly fulfilled love move beyond इश्क़ ?" and I can't come up with a reasonable answer. On the other hand, I can totally "get" how stages 4-7 are practically inevitable, given sufficient strength of 1-3.<br /><br />I wonder what your thoughts are about this point of view.<br /><br />SagarWildMagichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09214243227174474340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32937120.post-69448087676299100862009-04-11T16:59:00.000+05:302009-04-11T16:59:00.000+05:30nice one! loved it :)nice one! loved it :)Prabhathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12982126978554248558noreply@blogger.com